Wow minermail bombed out the last 3 days of email for 2500 users. (for the third time since september that I can remember). Can anyone deny that point and click microshaft exchance is far superior to the old system.

-Ryan

I don't get it either, I mean, I don't remember EVER having any problems with the old system and they were like, "upgrade to minermail or die, cuz minermail r0x!!" And yet ever since I've been on minermail (like 3 months) there have been at least 4 problems for my account....

I think someone was gettin a kickback for switching to the new thing... for them its all about features (minermail.umr.edu) rather than stability, I think.

anyone know when the email will be back up?

YEAH MAN, UNIX MAIL IS Evil, You know that devil guy that always hangs around Linux, he is trouble. The friend office clip is much better. And it does tricks if you right click on it!

Heh, I was digging around in my old email and found this little gem:



An Important Message from CIS
Computing and Information Services
-----------------------------------------------------------------

Move your e-mail to the new server for better performance!

Over the last couple of months, you may have experienced problems
with accessing your e-mail. The system you are currently using for
e-mail is suffering the effects of the aging process, and has become
unreliable. So, in an effort to improve our e-mail service to the UMR
campus, we have installed a new e-mail server (computer.) Moving
your account to "Exchange mail" should greatly improve your e-mail
service, plus provide you with extra features.

Exchange mail provides the following features/benefits:

- Web access to e-mail, check your e-mail from any computer
- Shared folder/calendaring ability
- Automatic processing of meeting requests and scheduling
- Global Address List
- containing all University of Missouri students
(except those electing privacy)
- faculty and staff e-mail address listings
- Personal Management tools (calendar, tasks, journal, notes)
- Server-side storage of folders (in addition to inbox).
- Support for standards-based e-mail clients
(IMAP, POP, MAPI; e.g. Outlook, Eudora, Netscape, Outlook Express).
- 30-day backup of deleted e-mail - called the "Dumpster". Users can
retrieve deleted items from the dumpster using the Outlook e-mail
client.

Just for everyone's info, UMR wasn't given a choice on the migration issue. UM System made that decision. We spent nearly $130,000 on new hardware, bleeding edge stuff from Dell, which proceeded to crash on top of repeated software issues with Exchange 2000, all at the behest of the home office. CIS did what they had to do, and given the circumstances is doing the best that can be expected. EVERY UM Campus has experienced some sort of outage since the required migration, including UMC which was out of e-mail COMPLETELY for the entire 35-40000 mailbox system for around a week at one point. The mail servers we're on now are not the new systems, but temp machines that are not designed specifically for this kind of work, which is why they're wigging out a bit. The server group is working their asses off to try and get this fixed, but talking about how great the Unix system was is a moot point. It's not coming back. And besides, the Unix system was chewing up mailboxes as well at the end. My only e-mail problems since coming to campus were because of the Nix mail. I've been quite lucky during outages. I like the exchange system, I just wish they'd had more time to bang on it before they were forced to put it into primary use.

Just some factoids
Furb

Well, since it is now Sunday, we are now on our fifth straight day without e-mail for some people, so we're not fareing that much better IMO.

I was on mail3 and my email was restored at about 1:00 AM on Saturday. I guess they haven't got it working for everyone yet ?

well, my service is back, but I cant access minermail.umr.edu, and I have a 12 day gap in my mail... so it still sucks...

i cant use my IMAP account, does that mean my computer is fucked or is campus's server still screwed up?

i pretty much no shit about computers