god damn this is one hyjacked post.

what was the original point.... oh yah something about a GW game. How did we get to fps games and other bullshit?

Let me explain... no, there is too much... let me sum up.
1. neba issued a challenge using as little respect as possible.
2. ElPupitre told him it was immature.
3. neba came back with a bunch of insults
4. fallout-boy said the game didn't require skill
5. I said that FPS and RTS used skill
6. Sczroer said neba is disrespectful
7. Phil and I disagree about whether skill == strategy
8. neba comes back again with a very insulting post
9. I tell neba that he's retarded and racist
10. shadowcat and n2soccer agree with me and n2soccer says that realistic games require more skill than unrealistic games
11. A bunch of people tell n2soccer he's wrong
12. !neba && neba says that trash talk is always involved
13. shadowcat and fallout-boy retort with some sarcasm
14. I pull apart neba's posts
15. n2soccer makes some innacurate statements and gets called on them
16. Cocky wizard says that this post is off topic and i tell him to shutup (for clarification, because they always get off topic)
17. rjsn74 tells me to wash the sand out of my vagina... even though other people said stuff long before I did
18. neba says i'm a pompous prick and says he wants to fight me
19. d-ra makes a post about elitest gamers
20. I tell neba that the pot is calling the kettle black

I may be biased about this summation, but I really don't know what else was the point of most of neba's posts.

so its all ElPupitre fault?

lol, well I suppose you could blame him if you wanted to...

This topic should really just be closed, it's going no where.

So i take it that the other guild that exists At UMR dosent want to play ball?

Another person and myself were the bulk of the other guild. And we disbanded it and joined another pvp guild. So there is no other umr guild.

well not the bulk, we were it

Well OK I guess that settles it then. We were under the assumption that you were still together.

what is the new guild?

It's not a new guild, Morituri Te Salutamus [MTS]

That would explain why i awoke from not playing for a couple weeks with no tabard

Ya know, a couple of days ago, that might have been useful information and a lot of poo-flinging could possibly have been avoided.

Sorry that this forum isn't at the top of my priority to check.

And if you would like to still fight our new guild you can. Rank 174 Bitches. (thats not gvging for about a week)