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 Post subject: No links between Iraq and Al Qaeda?
PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:23PM 
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Anyone still believe that there are no links?

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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:36PM 
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i think its more of they need help, so they are just saying lets join up with the reast of the american hateing world. doesn't change the fact that we need to make it into the worlds largest glass sculpture.

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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:38PM 
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You realize of course the majority of people that believe there was no link will continue to disbelieve it. Such is the way of the world.

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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:47PM 
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So, to recap:

Pre-Iraqi War, no strong Al-Qaeda ties in Iraq (as well as no WMD's)

Post-Iraqi War, Iraqi resistance hates us so much and wants us out of their country so bad that they pledge alligence to Bin Laden.

Yep, this war sure did make America safer...

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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:52PM 
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I think bj is right (sorta). THis sounds more like a cry for help than an allegience (sp). However, turning the nation into glass is kinda overboard. While alot (muhahaha there's that word) of people over there are really making things hard, just as many, if not more, want to live in a better place and are supporting America's assistance. Nuking the country for the activist buttholes over there is like destroying all of UMR because Chartwells sucks.

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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:53PM 
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The "link" was between the Iraqi Government, Saddam Hussien, and Al-Queada. The Iraqi gov't and Saddam Hussien have both been gone for quite some time now....this is a rebel milita leader pledging his alliance to Al Queada, most likley because they share a common enemy....us.


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So where was this guy when Saddam was in power?

Was he actually a member of Saddam's government? Did he align himself with Al-Qaeda as a member of Saddam's government?

But wait. Al-Qaeda is an Islamic fundamentalist group. They believe in a government based on the Koran. Saddam's Iraq...wasn't based on religion. Saddam was a secularist. Most of the Middle East disliked Iraq for that very reason. So what would an Islamic fundamentalist be doing in a secular government?


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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:58PM 
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haha great a 'link'. So...Bush invades Iraq and creates power vaccum. A fundamentalist tribal leader rises up and claims power in a few regions. This leader then claims allegiance to Bin Laden.. There are groups like this all over the world. How does this support the initial invasion of a sovereign nation?

Bush and Cheney should be arrested for war crimes, I mean seriously where does it stop? Who is next? How about France? They have tons of WMD's. To sum up..

BUSH=IGNORANT, WORLD SUCKING, SCUM

Any man/woman(18-35) who votes for bush and does not immediately enlist in the armed forces is a hypocrite.

At least Bin Laden actually says what his goals are, much unlike bush. All that Bin Laden wants is for the "west" to get out of the Middle east. You would think that a man who claims to be so religious, the "president", would understand blind ignorant hatred.


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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:58PM 


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BigPeeOn wrote:
So, to recap:

Pre-Iraqi War, no strong Al-Qaeda ties in Iraq (as well as no WMD's)

Post-Iraqi War, Iraqi resistance pledges alligence to Bin Laden.

Yep, this war sure did make America safer...


Actually admitting ties??????????

And of course enemies of the U.S. with common goals band together. We've made it so difficult for them to operate that they believe it's their only hope to inflict harm on the U.S. Both of these groups were anti-America before the war. Now we've stymied their plans to the point of them begging each other for directions and assistance. Were you a Hitler supporter as well?


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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 8:59PM 
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zkissane wrote:
But wait. Al-Qaeda is an Islamic fundamentalist group. They believe in a government based on the Koran. Saddam's Iraq...wasn't based on religion. Saddam was a secularist. Most of the Middle East disliked Iraq for that very reason.



Shhh.... People aren't supposed to know that.

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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 9:01PM 
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Thank gawd we have bush to "protect" us from all the Bad Things(tm).


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haha great a 'link'. So...Bush invades Iraq and creates power vaccum. A fundamentalist tribal leader rises up and claims power in a few regions. This leader then claims allegiance to Bin Laden.. There are groups like this all over the world. How does this support the initial invasion of a sovereign nation?

Bush and Cheney should be arrested for war crimes, I mean seriously where does it stop? Who is next? How about France? They have tons of WMD's. To sum up..

BUSH=IGNORANT, WORLD SUCKING, SCUM

Any man/woman(18-35) who votes for bush and does not immediately enlist in the armed forces is a hypocrite.


At least Bin Laden actually says what his goals are, much unlike bush. All that Bin Laden wants is for the "west" to get out of the Middle east. You would think that a man who claims to be so religious, the "president", would understand blind ignorant hatred.


I am unfortunately not as informed as I'd like to be. But, are you trying to say that Bin Laden hijacked planes to get the west out of the Middle East. So, it is America's fault that the middle east is modernising (sp)?

And what are kerry'sgoals?


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zkissane wrote:
But wait. Al-Qaeda is an Islamic fundamentalist group. They believe in a government based on the Koran. Saddam's Iraq...wasn't based on religion. Saddam was a secularist. Most of the Middle East disliked Iraq for that very reason. So what would an Islamic fundamentalist be doing in a secular government?


What was the percentage of Iraqi Muslims before the war? How many of these people were fond of their secular government? Wait, we would have seen these people peacefully protest their government under the protection of the first amendment, right?

Just because Al-Qaeda wasn't happy with Saddam's regime, doesn't mean that there weren't Al-Qaeda sympathizers throughout not only the country of Iraq, but also upper level government. I can't believe how naive some people are.


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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 9:19PM 
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Just because Al-Qaeda wasn't happy with Saddam's regime, doesn't mean that there weren't Al-Qaeda sympathizers throughout not only the country of Iraq, but also upper level government. I can't believe how naive some people are.


You point? How does having even a large percentage of sympathizers justify a pre-emptive war? Why didn't we go after Saudi Arabia which has MANY more *admitted* sympathizers??? BECAUSE THIS WAR ISN'T ABOUT TERRORISM. [/i]


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PostPosted: Sun 10-17-2004 9:42PM 


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I'm saying there were Al Qaeda sympathizers in Iraq. I'm also saying that there were terrorists in Iraq. I'm also saying that Iraq was a threat to every country it borders. I'm aslo saying that Iraq was a haven for Anti American activity. Try not to put words into my mouth, and you may stop putting your foot in your own.


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