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 Post subject: Sex Ed. --- BAD
PostPosted: Wed 03-03-2004 11:29PM 


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First, i love the name of this organization "Pro-Life Waco" ... read "Pro-Life Wacko"

Some girl scouts give an award to an executive of Planned Parenthood, and get valuable sex ed. , so the parents freak and the Girl Scout troupe is no more.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,113210,00.html

Im sorry, but when did knowledge about our sexuality become taboo? I hope that when we all here at UMR growup and have kids that we realize that human sexuality is just as important as personal hygene, and teach both to our kids.

qoute:"The youngsters receive a book with chapters on homosexuality and masturbation, as well as illustrations of couples having sex, people examining their naked bodies and a boy putting on a condom.

Some Girl Scout mothers called it soft-core porn. "

Wow, you must be a sexually deprived woman, if you are gonna get hot over the "soft-core porn" of an illustration of someone putting on a condom.

My porn tends to involve a little more. YMMV


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PostPosted: Wed 03-03-2004 11:56PM 
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People need to know about their sexuality, sure. But, come on, these girls were around ten years old.

If I had a ten-year old, I'd be pissed that someone gave them a pamphlet with illustrations of sex and it's related activities, too.

When a child is read to learn about sex is something for the parents to decide, and at ten, it's a safe bet that the parent's haven't decided that it is time.

The PP exec. made a bad decision.

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When a child is ready to learn about sex is something for the parents to decide,


Hmmmm. .... In a perfect world i would agree with you. But we do not exist there. A person(child) will decide when its time FOR THEM to learn about sex, with or without the parents consent. .... They are not robots that you can program. They are people too. They have minds. Minds that are not bound to the parents philosophy or bias.

This is not the 1950's. Kids want to know about their bodies. It is not right to deny them the information.

Why is it so bad to show them how to use a condom? Really. I know you dont want your 10 year old to be having sex (me neither), but they need the ammunition to protect themselves. Sex is not a 4-letter word. We all got here from sex. Our species cannot exist without sex. Why is it so bad to tell them what its about?????

Help them protect themselves from std's and un-wanted pregnancies.

You cant make a problem dissapear by sticking your head in the sand.


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Some people like to operate under the rouse that what their kids dont know wont hurt them. They like to think that if their kids don't know that much about sex, then they are less likely to engage in it. This kind of thinking is obviously flawed and can result in worse results than other methods.

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Yeah, the fact that it was in some way graphic (who knows, the parents could have been overreacting), but that does seem a little odd to me. I had a sex ed in my Catholic grade school in 5th grade, and I believe you're about 10 then, I forgot exactly. That's probably not too young to explain "the birds and the bees" but a graphic pamphlet is over the top. Maybe for high school kids it's cool, but not younger Girl Scouts, that seems less appropriate to me. I do, though, think it important that kids get reliable and truthful information and an early but appropriate age.

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I agree that SexEd is very important, and kids should know how to protect themselves. Sex should not be taboo. However, I think a serious discussion over the topic would have been better for ten-year olds. Some may not be mature enough to view and understand the pamphlet

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Agreed, you have to remember that Planned Parenthood is always out for publicity, so doing this was a ploy. I think that 10 year old girls are a hair bit too youg for the graphics, and a discussion would have been more in order. I remember in 5th grade they had the "your body is changing" discussion, and a few more light details about the birds and the bees.

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Just to clarify...

the birds fuck the bees or was it the other way? I never got that analogy.

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Sex Ed is defenity a good thing. Some parents like to think their little angels will never have sex and would rather have them know nothing about it.

If you go to a public school with other kids you are going to learn about sex. Period. It is much better to have them learn from a real source instead of word of mouth. You aren't going to stop people from having sex before marrige, so you might as well tell them how to protect themselves.

I do, however think 10 is a bit young. I wasn't the slightest bit concerned with sex when i was 10 years old. Everyone matures at different rates though. I agree that it should be up to the parents, but many parents will avoid talking to their children about the subject, or not talk to them at all.


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I find our society funny for this reason: Its ok to expose a ten year old girl to extreme violence in movies, as well as letting young children watch the news, and we do very little to stop bullying and violence in schools; yet even seeing a naked women is bad, we shove sex under the table like its something to be forgotten and never spoken of in polite society. I think that the above facts are the reason our country produces some of the fucked up rapists and sexual preadetors that it does.

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when did knowledge about our sexuality become taboo? ... Sex is not a 4-letter word. Why is it so bad to tell them what its about????? ... we shove sex under the table like its something to be forgotten and never spoken of in polite society.


where do you people get this stuff? very, very few people ever think that, and it's not a common sentiment at all. just because you don't want some stranger teaching your 10 year old child how to have sex doesn't mean that you think it's something that should be forgotten and never spoken of. it just means that you don't think your 10 year old girl is ready for it, or should be taught things that are against your morals.

yes, there are people who believe sex is wrong outside of marriage, no these people don't believe sex is taboo and should never be spoken of. that is a ridiculous stereotype perpetuated by people like PP who push their values on everyone else through things like "sex ed."

i believe that sex is a good and holy thing, created by God not only as a means of reproduction, but also as a means of physical, emotional, and spiritual bonding between one man and one women for life. and i'm sure it's probably a lot of fun, too. the naked body was also created by God, and because it evokes the feelings that are meant to be enjoyed in marriage, it also is meant to be enjoyed exclusively within marriage. i am going to teach my children this. wouldn't you be very upset if they taught in school that God made sex and it was only okay to do in marriage and that homosexuality was wrong? i would be very upset if they taught my little girl that there is no God and that it's okay to have sex with anybody as long as they use a condom. you (or PP for that matter) don't have the right to tell my children what is right and wrong any more than i have to tell your children what is right and wrong without your consent.

i think it's ridiculous that you think it's morally wrong for parents to keep "information" away from little girls, to teach them their own moral values, but it's okay to teach them your moral values and show them pictures that outside of an "educational" environment would unquestionably be considered molestation. do you even think about what you think before you robot the words onto they keyboard?

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hmm.. I don't know. I wouldn't want my kids getting a masterbation hand-out...

why does a 10 year old need to know how to roll on a condom? nigga please. :shock:

I think they did a south park ep. discussing this.

I just know that if I was a parent... I would rather inform my kids on "whats what" before they hear it from some stranger. If it is by the school.. that is fine... but it sounds like the pamplet had more than necessary graphical stuff. "Look timmy, this is doggy style. Picture 2b is an example of how to preform a donkey punch. Clinch fist tightly, aim, and release... then say 'how ya like dat bitch'. If no reply, repeat donkey punch".

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You'll probably be showing your kids hardcore porn before they can read....

I actually just watched that episode earlier. I bet you'd show your kids how to put on a condom with your mouth to you sick bastard.

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Better than showing kids how to kill a man six times before he hits the ground. I'd rather my kid saw sex and nudity than something like Passion of the Mel, which, ignoring the religious nod, is essentially an hour and a half long snuff film. But that's cultural values for you.

My mom taught sex ed in a school when I was about ten... I remember reading her books. They were exceptionally clinical and the "Couples" drawings were entirely clean, no genitalia showing. I don't think anyone was shoving porn at girl scouts here.


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