I think fraternity parties are fucking stupid. We cant even let in everyone, we have to have a fucking guestlist. How gay is that? The music at the parties, Holy Shit, is the most retarded braindead music in the world. I think it is a rule that everyone has to play the same music, I think all the houses share the same playlist. DJ Jack is worthless, I could play CD's too, it isnt very hard. He plays the same music that everyone else plays too. So, the winamp program on the computer that plays our music is as talented as he is. Also, I tried to play something a little different once, I swear they try to crucify me. And the way people dance around here is embarassing. Everyone just grinds on each other, and they are all off of the beat too. They have no fucking rhythm. I am embarassed for them just thinking about it. I am not any good at dancing, but I keep my white ass off of the dance floor. I just want to hear other peoples' thoughs on the music, playlist, DJ Jackoff, etc...

yeah dude i'm pretty good at running winamp. you should see it i have it all tricked out with the different skins and shit. aw its tight.

sure, sigtau has dj jack, but he is nothing compared to voluptuious vince and awesome adrian... and don't forget james and his giant pc

yeah (warning: here comes more bitching about UMR) at other schools its definatly not so restricted. like, why aren't sororities allowed to post party flyers? heaven forbid we have girls going to parties. maybe they would be a little more exciting.

i don't really notice the music until dixie land delight is played. it's actually a decent song without 25 girls singing "YEEHAW" and all of the words

Yeah, all I gots to say is I haven't been to a Rolla party in over a year and half...however I've been to some parties at SEMO and Truman State. Those parties kick ass for a couple of reasons:
1) Non-Rolla girls there....Truman state girls are the bestest...mouth watering
2) Music isn't all hard shit or rap.... I actually heard Friends in Low Places and The Joker at the last Truman party.
3) The parties are held in REAL houses...not just in big rooms. You can go upstairs if you want to or in the basement.

I can see numbers 2 and 3 changing...but sadly we'll only have Rolla girls till it is St Pat's time.

I think this is a serious issue that all greeks need to stand up against. We have some(shrug) power with campus and deserve the right to gain a little respect. Its pretty shitty when i go invite some people over to our house a couple of hours before our party and then they aren't let in cause they "aren't on the guest list." This is bullshit. We used to have respectable parties here, and there actually used be other good parties at other houses, but since some of the problems with fraternities have risen, we haven't been able to do shit. We should pull together to be able to ATLEAST allow all rolla students to our parties. I feel shitty when i see 5 hot chicks walk away from the door and i can't do a damn thing about it. It's happend. Seriously though, anyone out there agree, we should do something about this. Does Seville have anything to do w/ this or is it IFC or what?

p.s. the 5 hot chicks weren't from holla rolla.

I definitely have to agree with the guys at sig nu...I got in somehow after 15 mins the previous friday at sig nu. I saw A LOT of gals being turned back....
the issue is..rolla already lacks in the no. of gals..so y the hell do u turn them back...Can't IFC and the greek houses just having open-to-all parties???

as for dj's....there are a lot of guys doing pro DJing who goto school here...
if any of you had been to the rave by kmnr you would have noticed...
They would prolly do it even free upon request...

theres nothing else to do in rolla...atleast give the parties some life...

The problem lies with the liability. The only solution I can foresee is to have a campus approved list where people can sign their names agreeing not to hold the party holders responsible for unforeseen accidents. The next question is "How do we go about doing this?" I believe this would lie within IFC's domain. If anybody out there (especially you IFC guys) knows how to get something started, I would love to hear your input.

A "release form" for partygoers, while it may cover standard liability issues (id est "Do this or you can't have a party"), it won't help at all if someone were actually to get sued for something that happened at a party.

First there is the fact that guests will show up to a party already inebriated.

Secondly having a "release form" at the door to a party implies that it is, in fact, an open party, and raises issues as to whether or not a house can have some control over who comes in to their parties. Personally, I really like parties with as many people there as possible, I don't care if there are dormies or whatever, but there are some people who I do not want at a party, for various reasons (not just that they're dumbasses).

THirdly there is the fact that with the guest list system, there is a definite affiliation with a House for every guest (they're members of a house, or guests of a member). Thus if there is an incident involving someone getting hurt/sick, someone commiting acts of violence, vandalism, and/or generally acting like a drunken ass, or someone being found passed out in the phone room and 10 the next morning, that person's affiliated house can be contacted.

An open party of any kind causes problems in these areas. Yes, it does suck getting turned away from a party. Yes, I guess for some people it is too much trouble to actually be friends with _one_ member of _one_ Greek house, and get on the guest list for a party. But really when you're not standing at the door, you don't notice that someone is getting turned away.

I have been to parties on other campuses where the liability policy basically didn't exist. I have been on other campuses where the entire Greek system was very different from here. I still heard people bitching about not getting in to a good party. Basically, considering the mood of campus administrators towards Greek life right now, fraternities having open parties, or anything even approaching open parties, is a bad idea.

I guess this is the point where I get idealistic (re: stupid), but I'm getting to the point where I'm really tired of how much the administration is anti-fun. We are paying these people to provide a service to us. At some point they are supposed to be accountable to us for everything that they do. If we want to have some open parties, then they ought to work their asses off trying to find a way to make it happen. None of this "It's too hard to come up with a workable system" crap. Especially on the upper levels, they are making way too much money to whine about having to do work. It's their job to work for us. If they don't like it, they can quit. I realize that there are big obsticles for the administration to overcome in order to have an open party, but if some frat wants to hold one, then the Greek advisors ought to work with IFC to put a plan together to make it happen.

Why don’t they just make it so that all the students of UMR can go to IFC and apply for a Greek ID? And in the process of doing so they can fill out liability waivers and emergency contact info.

I'd just like to add a factor to this discussion. Greek houses are campus approved housing. We're lucky that we don't have to follow the same rules as the residence halls, including their alcohol policy (dry).

Is being able to be wet supposed to be our "gift" from the school? I think this is all bullshit!