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 Post subject: Recycling, good or bad?
PostPosted: Sat 04-15-2006 1:10PM 
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I would like to know people's opinions on it. Discuss.

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recycling one aluminium can saves 95% of the original cost of refining the alumina needed to replace that can, and also saves enough electricity to run one 17" Crt television for over 3 hours.


what the hell do you think?

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Yes, please name one negative effect of recycling.


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It didnt say recycling was bad. I wanted to know people's opinion on it. Geez. I read an article about pros and cons of recycling and just wanted to know if other people had similar or conflicting views. Personally I like recycling, ok.

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If we stop then we need more stuff to be mining!! That means more jobs for me!! HAHA

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not all aluminum is recycled. NYC had a big problem with the aluminum that was supposed to be recylced was just put in a landfill. Was cheaper to put it there than to recycle it. But you should always recycle when you can. It can't hurt.

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I'm in favor of recycling. It seems to be laziness that drives people not to recycle. Not that hard to toss the aluminum cans, plastic bottles, and paper into a recycling bin and then take it all at once to be recycled. Even EASIER in the dorms as you've got the bins right there (except office paper, which for some stupid reason isn't there).


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I am one of the anti recycling advocates...except aluminum and other metals...thats good. Don't recylce plastic is the big issue...paper isn't that great either. Don't really have the desire to put the arguments into typed words at the moment...maybe someone else will...or I will at a later date.

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leeching the ink and bleaching have never been environmentally friendly in the ways of paper recycling;however, it must work out for it to be economical


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llSmithll wrote:
recycling one aluminium can saves 95% of the original cost of refining the alumina needed to replace that can, and also saves enough electricity to run one 17" Crt television for over 3 hours.


what the hell do you think?


I want to know how you know that? Are you just regurgitating something that sounds good? IF it is really that beneficial, why don't companies (ie Coca Cola, Bud, Busch, Pepsi, etc etc....) push for more recycling?

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There is a bullsh!t (penn and teller) episode on this very subject.


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recycling one aluminium can saves 95% of the original cost of refining the alumina needed to replace that can, and also saves enough electricity to run one 17" Crt television for over 3 hours.


what the hell do you think?


I want to know how you know that? Are you just regurgitating something that sounds good? IF it is really that beneficial, why don't companies (ie Coca Cola, Bud, Busch, Pepsi, etc etc....) push for more recycling?


I dont know about those numbers, but I do know that aluminum isn't cheap. It's cheaper to melt down soda cans than it is to mine it. That's why there's money in it and why the can-man goes through our trash.

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I want to know how you know that? Are you just regurgitating something that sounds good? IF it is really that beneficial, why don't companies (ie Coca Cola, Bud, Busch, Pepsi, etc etc....) push for more recycling?


You mean like:
http://www.pepsiworld.com/help/recycle.pdf
http://coke.fluidvision.net/disposal.htm
http://www.abehsreport.com/docs/material.html - "The Anheuser-Busch Recycling Corporation (ABRC), founded in 1978, is the largest recycler of aluminum cans in the world. "

From Coca-Cola:
• 96% less energy needed to produce a recycled can than to create a new one

• 95% of pollution to air and water is cut when recycling

• Recycling 1 kg of aluminum saves 8 kg of bauxite - the metal mined to make the aluminum cans - 4 kg of chemical products and 14 kilowatts of energy.

• That 54 billion cans that were recycled just last year saved about 15 million barrels of crude oil

*shrug* of course, they could all be wrong.. I have no clue. Also, places like Oki package their ink cartridges with slips and they'll pay for you to send them to a recycling center.

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llSmithll wrote:
recycling one aluminium can saves 95% of the original cost of refining the alumina needed to replace that can, and also saves enough electricity to run one 17" Crt television for over 3 hours.


what the hell do you think?


I want to know how you know that? Are you just regurgitating something that sounds good? IF it is really that beneficial, why don't companies (ie Coca Cola, Bud, Busch, Pepsi, etc etc....) push for more recycling?


I dont know about those numbers, but I do know that aluminum isn't cheap. It's cheaper to melt down soda cans than it is to mine it. That's why there's money in it and why the can-man goes through our trash.


Isn't that illegal. Has anyone else ever heard Coke, Pepsi, or Busch talk about recycling (other than possibly a tiny printing on the label) before those pages? It is very possible that I am oblivious, and just never seen what was right in front of me...

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I am one of the anti recycling advocates...except aluminum and other metals...thats good. Don't recylce plastic is the big issue...paper isn't that great either. Don't really have the desire to put the arguments into typed words at the moment...maybe someone else will...or I will at a later date.


I'm not saying you're wrong or right, but why bother to claim it and then say you don't feel like backing it up. Earn some credit.


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