When I took it, Eckstein gave everyone A's... but he led a lot of people to believe they had C's until the last day. Basically like 3 or 4 people hadn't given their final speech by the last day and he held them back. I was out of the room but heard him say something like "I was just fucking with you guys, you're all getting A's, now get outta here" lol. Also, gamerdonkey gave a kickass speech in there about cookiecutter speeches , and Aaron had an awesome reaction to that too ("Maybe I wanted to see what all of the cookies tasted like, and yours tastes like shit!").

Overall, an awesome class. You don't learn formal speech techniques, but this orality concept that he tries to drill into you that was invented by Lance Haynes the st pats guy / head of speech dept.

I had it with Lillie, talk about an easy A...

I had it with Lilly, talk about a controlling bitch. If you disagree with her ever, you risk a bad grade on any assignment. I ended up pulling an A but had to stop stating my personal opinions and disagreeing with her.

I have had internships and I've working in the real corporate engineering world, when you want me to give an engineering speech, I have an idea of what management wants and it wasn't always what she was saying to do.

At the end of the course she actually said to me 'Derek, see how much easier an assignment is when you don't argue with the boss?' There is a difference between arguing with the boss who pays me, and the teacher who I pay. She is everything wrong with what I see in public education today, teachers should be fostering free thinking and adaptive qualities for different situations, not encouraging students to be mindless drones.

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its a speech class......calm down

I had lilly and I got a B but I only went to class on the days i had to give a speech so Ill take it

take it over the summer at a CC

Eckstein IMO

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