A friend showed this to me; I find it well-written.

http://www.stwing.upenn.edu/~jenf/writing/rant04.html

The problem with Rolla girls isn't the being a bitch that afflicts most women, but thier complete lack of presence. Well, most Rolla girls.

The nice guys sound just as dumb as the manipulative bitch.

The "nice guys" need to not think of themselves as such martyrs all the time. Find a middleground between the pathetic whiney "friend" that complains about how he's never "the one" and the guys who always seem to have girlfriends yet they're assholes. If the nice guy either tried a bit harder on the girl he wanted, or realized it was never going to happen, he'd be a lot happier.

I think some of us older students here have fallen into that second category.

or, they could stop trying to go after the bitches who sleep with the asses, and find a nice girl who doesn't go after that kind of guy.

or the guys could quit trying to get the superficial girls that they'd never have a shot with...and be realistic

seriously, be mean. it works~

I've noticed that....i'm a fairly shy guy who dosen't have a whole lot of female friends...however it seems like the girls i try to be nice to shun me away, but the ones i am uninterested in or blow off always like me more than they should...weird.

yeah. over the summer i was hanging out with some random girl from my hometown & my girlfriend, and after being mean to her all night, i got her naked in my dads truck. no joke. gf didnt care either HEHE


edit: i used to be a nice guy in high school, but my good friend tuckermax relieved me of that.

the nice guy stuff only works if you're really clever/witty when it comes to talking to them one on one. gotta be ballsy with what you say. i lucked into that, too.

if you're too nice, it seems fake or you're just creepy

but if you're mean, in a way it's a sick challenge

"if you're too nice, it seems fake or you're just creepy"

no, actually it's just because girls are bitches and take advantage of nice guys.

it's the old saying ~

"we adore those who ignore us and ignore those who adore us"

or whatever.

I have seen guys go out of their way to be so nice that it was sickening b/c they thought that was the only way they could score..it's then that it's fake

Then that isn't a nice guy getting shot down, but a creepy guy getting shot down, correct?

Yea, nice guys don't try to score. It would be nice, but not what we are going for.